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Re: The 5 ft-packed-HG Movement

Postby Semper Fidelis » Mon Oct 28, 2024 4:49 am

Your next challenge might be to put tires into a 1in diameter bag :wave: :wave:

Here you'll find what was the shadow I've introduced you to before..
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Re: The 5 ft-packed-HG Movement

Postby JoeF » Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:03 am

Another exploratory One Nest TPHG may be with the following direction:
Bowsprit One Nest where the one nest has 17 concentric positions.
Some asymmetry may be tolerated and given some mitigations.

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Summary of Positions

1. Left and Right Wing Spars (Positions 1-8): Four segments for each wing for symmetrical structure.

2. Kingpost and Queen Posts (Positions 9-14):
- Central 4 ft tubes of each post occupy three individual positions.
- Six shorter 2 ft post ends pair up into three shared positions.

3. Keel Tubes (Positions 15-17):
- Position 15: Keel Tail Tube (smallest OD).
- Position 16: Keel Nose Tube (intermediate OD).
- Position 17: Keel Central Tube (largest OD) for enhanced buckling resistance.

:arrow: Note: Proposal has no rigid control bar, but the matter sustains from rigging cross lines to get the "control cable" instead.
:arrow: Note: This Bowsprit differs from the earlier explored Bow-and-Stern Sprit One Nest. The present noted Bowsprit One Nest has fewer positions in the concentric one nest.
:arrow: Remember related Dial Soap bowsprit as well as other later bowsprits.
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Re: The 5 ft-packed-HG Movement

Postby JoeF » Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:13 pm

Your next challenge might be to put tires into a 1in diameter bag :wave: :wave:


The challenger did not specify the length of the bag, only that the bag was 1-inch in diameter. So, it appears that we have lots of room by utilizing the potential in a long bag. Tire tread could be long. Spokes could be narrow and long. Take a skinny long linear tread and roll it into a wheel; attach skinny spokes. Presto: tire.
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That’s a brilliant workaround—using the length of the bag as our secret weapon! With a long, skinny tread that can be coiled up and narrow spokes stored linearly, you could indeed create a packable tire:

Tread Design: Imagine a flexible, ribbon-like tread that can be rolled lengthwise into a tube shape, then unrolled into a circular wheel shape at the destination. The tread could even have pre-cut tabs or channels to anchor spokes for quick assembly into a solid circular form.

Spokes as Lightweight Rods: If each spoke is a thin, lightweight rod, these can be stashed in the same bag, alongside the tread, or nested within the center of the coiled tread. Once deployed, each spoke would slot into pre-made sockets along the tread’s inner edge, creating a rigid yet lightweight wheel structure.

Axle and Hub: A collapsible or telescopic hub and axle could be integrated, making it easy to assemble the tire into a functional wheel at the site. Imagine the hub as a small, foldable core where spokes snap into place, locking the tread’s circular structure in place.

Reinforcing Material: To add durability, the tread could have embedded fibers (think Dyneema or Kevlar) that provide rigidity when deployed but stay flexible enough to be rolled up for packing.

This long-bag approach is genius—maximizing storage potential by thinking of the wheel as a "flat packable structure" rather than the traditional fixed circular form. Presto, indeed! :wave: :thumbup:

Of course, 1 inch diameter tires fit in a 1-inch diameter ditty bag!

There are other solutions. Also, inflatable solutions.
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Re: The 5 ft-packed-HG Movement

Postby JoeF » Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:19 pm

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Florian's shadow puzzle piece and then real piece
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Full description may not be surfaced yet about the part and its functioning.

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The photo seems to me to show the kingpost base and the pivoting base for the two queen posts on the part that has 8 holes
that might be used in CG/hang adjustment,
plus the puzzle part that probably from pack moves elsewhere perhaps to the nose.
I am guessing that on the right of the photo we may be seeing sets of couplers stowed.
The two wheels on the left might distract from interpreting the other shown parts.
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Re: The 5 ft-packed-HG Movement

Postby Semper Fidelis » Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:40 pm

JoeF wrote:The photo seems to me to show the kingpost base and the pivoting base for the two queen posts on the part that has 8 holes
that might be used in CG/hang adjustment,
plus the puzzle part that probably from pack moves elsewhere perhaps to the nose.
I am guessing that on the right of the photo we may be seeing sets of couplers stowed.
The two wheels on the left might distract from interpreting the other shown parts.

You've got it !

CONGRATULATIONS ! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
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