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Re: Ultra-Portable Hang Glider Design Movement

Postby Semper Fidelis » Tue Mar 25, 2025 2:12 pm

JoeF wrote:UPHG :: ultra portable hang glider


This definition sounds perfect to me !

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UPHG

Postby JoeF » Tue Mar 25, 2025 6:15 pm


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Warning:
52 minutes:

UPHGs may well evolve from having digested insect blessings ...
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Re: The 5 ft-packed-HG Movement

Postby Chris McKeon » Tue Mar 25, 2025 6:28 pm

My Self: I like the Sound of "U-P-P": Ultra-Portable Predator.
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Ultra-Portable Hang Glider Design Movement:: UPHG

Postby JoeF » Wed Mar 26, 2025 3:21 pm

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Ultra-Portable Hang Glider (UPHG)
Design Movement

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Stay-Line Anchoring Using Joe Loops

In previous discussions, a single Joe Loop was considered as an option for anchoring both the flying and landing crossline stays at a given spar-strut junction. However, this approach presented some challenges, including slipperiness and snubbing considerations. Additionally, an important factor was not previously addressed: the inability to tailor differential strengths for handling distinct flight and landing loads.

This technical note explores an alternative approach—using two Joe Loops at a single spar-strut join—to independently secure the flying stay and the landing stay, offering improved load distribution and control. Diagonal plane-framing lines at the same join are not discussed here, as they can be addressed separately.

Two Joe Loops at the Join

Instead of a single loop, two independent Joe Loops are employed, each cinching around the spar and passing through itself for a secure hold. This method allows for:

  • Independent cinching, ensuring each loop maintains proper tension without interference.
  • Better load management, with loops sized and rated according to the expected forces from flight and landing.
  • Color coding or labeling for quick identification and correct joint matching.
  • Differentiated loop strengths, where inboard loops (handling greater loads) are made heavier than outboard join loops.
  • Length optimization, with forward stay loops long enough to pass through camber-adjusting components, while aft loops remain shorter as they do not require additional routing.
  • Dyneema construction, ensuring high strength and low weight.


To mitigate slippage and enhance stability, a small rubber snubbing ring can be placed over each loop, positioned outboard of the Joe Cup flange, to neatly secure the cinch.

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Ultra-Portable Hang Glider Design Movement:: UPHG

Postby JoeF » Thu Mar 27, 2025 7:04 pm

Ultra-Portable Hang Glider Design Movement:: UPHG
Development note:

Hoops, Loops, Socks, Lines, Tubes, Fabrics, Films—Oh my :!:

Gather these and configure a UPHG :!:

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Re: The 5 ft-packed-HG Movement

Postby dhmartens » Thu Mar 27, 2025 8:41 pm

We are looking at the ultra portable predator.
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Re: Ultra-Portable Hang Glider Design Movement:: UPHG

Postby Semper Fidelis » Fri Mar 28, 2025 12:51 am

JoeF wrote:Ultra-Portable Hang Glider Design Movement:: UPHG


I realy DO think that we need a new topic about UPHG, a new discussion start, just about it.

Please do so :thumbup:

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Re: The 5 ft-packed-HG Movement

Postby JoeF » Fri Mar 28, 2025 7:57 am

:idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea:

All are invited to continue this topic thread
and kin matters in a new topic thread:



:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: Ultra-Portable Hang Glider(s) UPHG
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Re: The 5 ft-packed-HG Movement

Postby Chris McKeon » Mon Jun 09, 2025 3:56 pm

I wish to second Simper Fidelis thoughts, but with a added Descriptor. I love the idea of having a Short Pacible Predator.
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Re: The 5 ft-packed-HG Movement

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Tue Jul 22, 2025 4:53 pm

Chris McKeon wrote:I wish to second Simper Fidelis thoughts, but with a added Descriptor. I love the idea of having a Short Pacible Predator.


That's a tall order Chris!!
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