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 Post subject: Re: La Jolla Town Council Endorses Reforms at Torrey Pines
PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 6:10 pm 
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Some posts prior, I gave a link to a CHATGPT short chat. It seems not to work, so here is the archive copy:
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San Diego, wake up! The City has sold you out at Torrey Pines Gliderport!

What’s Happening?
The City of San Diego has compromised independent park use at Torrey Pines Gliderport, limiting access for hang gliding enthusiasts and selling out the public’s right to this historic flying site. This isn’t just about pilots—it’s about keeping public spaces open for everyone!

What Can We Do?
We need to take action now before it’s too late. Here’s a **low-cost, high-impact plan** to wake up San Diegans to what’s happening:

  1. Sign the Petition: We need to show public support! A petition demanding fair access to Torrey Pines is being circulated. (We’ll post the link soon!)
  2. Spread the Word on Social Media: Use the hashtag #SaveTorreyPines and share stories, videos, and photos to raise awareness.
  3. Attend a Community Meeting: We’ll be organizing a gathering to discuss the issue, plan strategies, and mobilize supporters.
  4. Contact Local Media: Write letters to the editor, send press releases, and ask TV stations to cover our fight.
  5. Build Alliances with Outdoor Groups: Hikers, paragliders, surfers, and nature lovers—this is a fight for ALL public land users!
  6. Pressure City Officials: Call, email, or visit your local representatives and demand transparency and action.
  7. Join Us for an Awareness Event at Torrey Pines: A peaceful gathering to showcase the importance of this site and make our voices heard.

Get Involved – The Time is NOW!
We have a small budget, but we have a big community. If we work together, we can stop this erosion of our public spaces.

Reply to this thread and let us know if you're in! Also, if you have contacts in the media, city government, or legal expertise, please reach out.

San Diego, WAKE UP before it’s too late!

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 Post subject: Re: La Jolla Town Council Endorses Reforms at Torrey Pines
PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2025 11:29 pm 
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I just wanted to bump this topic in visibility since it's very similar to our recent efforts.

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 Post subject: Re: La Jolla Town Council Endorses Reforms at Torrey Pines
PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2026 2:14 pm 
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The La Jolla Town Council stepped up to protect our recreational rights ... again!

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Today (August 13, 2026), the President of the La Jolla Town Council sent this message to City Councilmember Joe LaCava, Mayor Todd Gloria, and the entire San Diego City Council:

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Dear Council President LaCava, Members of the City Council, and Mayor Gloria,

On behalf of the past and present leadership of the La Jolla Town Council, I am writing to reiterate our strong support for the reactivation of the Torrey Pines City Park Advisory Board.

Please find attached our Letter of Support. This request is also shared by several other La Jolla community organizations that have submitted their own recommendations. Over the years, growing community feedback has highlighted numerous detailed issues that can only be properly addressed through the reactivation of this Advisory Board.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

Respectfully,
Mary Soriano
President, La Jolla Town Council

La Jolla Town Council
2nd Thursday of each month
6:00pm -7:30pm
La Jolla Recreation Center
615 Prospect Street 92037


This is the text from the enclosed letter:

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From: La Jolla Town Council
Date: August 13, 2026
Subject: Reactivate Torrey Pines City Park Advisory Board

To: San Diego City Council President Joe LaCava <joelacava@sandiego.gov>
Cc: Mayor Gloria <mayortoddgloria@sandiego.gov>, Jennifer Campbell <jennifercampbell@sandiego.gov>,
Stephen Whitburn <stephenwhitburn@sandiego.gov>, Henry Foster <henryfoster@sandiego.gov>, Marni von
Wilpert <marnivonwilpert@sandiego.gov>, Kent Lee <kentlee@sandiego.gov>, Raul Campillo
<raulcampillo@sandiego.gov>, Vivian Moreno <vivianmoreno@sandiego.gov>, Sean Elo-Rivera
<seanelorivera@sandiego.gov>

Letter of Support for Reactivating the Torrey Pines City Park Advisory Board


Dear San Diego City Council President LaCava,

Support for Advisory Board
The La Jolla Town Council (LJTC) respectfully submits this letter in support of reactivating the Torrey Pines City Park Advisory Board under City Charter Section 43(a) and its essential role in providing oversight of operations at the Torrey Pines Gliderport.

Background and Community Concerns
This matter carries a substantial history within the La Jolla community and continues to generate significant concern among its residents. The LJTC has received testimony from community members who report that they are unable to safely and equitably access Torrey Pines City Park and the Gliderport. The increasing commercialization of these public assets represents an additional concern shared by a majority of constituents. Upon careful review, the LJTC has determined that reactivating a formal Torrey Pines City Park (TPCP) Advisory Board represents a meaningful and constructive step toward resolving a substantial number of the ongoing concerns raised by residents.

Recommendations for Safety and Fair Access
Among its duties, the Torrey Pines City Park Advisory Board should be tasked with advising the City on matters of safety and fair access to the Torrey Pines City Park. Matters of safety should include recommendations regarding flight rules as well as a review of all accidents and incidents at the Gliderport. Matters of fair access should include a review of whether solo-flyer pilots should be required to maintain annual membership fees and/or individual insurance coverage as a condition of flying at the Gliderport. Such measures would serve to promote accountable and responsible stewardship of this distinctive coastal resource while safeguarding safe and equitable public access for all.

LJTC Formal Action
At its duly noticed meeting of February 12, 2026, the LJTC voted in support of the position that reactivating the TPCP Advisory Board would provide substantive and meaningful solutions to address the concerns of La Jolla residents. This position is consistent with advocacy previously advanced by former LJTC President James Rudolph in 2021.

Requested Action
The LJTC respectfully and earnestly urges the City Council to proceed with the reactivation of the TPCP Advisory Board without further delay. Specifically, the LJTC requests that the City Council:

 Direct staff to bring an item before Council, or the appropriate committee, to formally reactivate the Torrey Pines City Park Advisory Board under City Charter Section 43(a);
 Establish a timeline for the appointment of Advisory Board members; and
Charge the reactivated Advisory Board with the safety and fair-access responsibilities outlined above.


Conclusion
Thank you for your attention to this matter and for your continued stewardship of Torrey Pines City Park.

Respectfully,
Mary Soriano
President, La Jolla Town Council
Date: August 13, 2026


I've attached the PDF document to this message.

Thanks to President Mary Soriano and thanks to the entire La Jolla Town Council!!
Thanks also to Ernie Casco and the many people who have supported the Torrey and U.S. Hawks!!


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LJTC_LOS_Reactivate_TPCP_Advisory_Board_FINAL_Aug_13_2026.pdf [137.7 KiB]
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 Post subject: Re: La Jolla Town Council Endorses Reforms at Torrey Pines
PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2026 9:02 pm 
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With the 2028 Olympics coming we need to make the food supply at the gliderport compatible with our EU guests so the Ushawks will require Scallops to be free from harmful chemicals at the gliderport thus they must be sourced from this supplier: https://www.albertsons.com/shop/product ... k4QAvD_BwE

The Low Death Rate of the flight school also satisfies a requirement. This is not popular at Ushawks but Gavin Newsome likes it.


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 Post subject: Re: La Jolla Town Council Endorses Reforms at Torrey Pines
PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2026 9:39 am 
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The Low Death Rate of the flight school also satisfies a requirement.

Where do you get your information about the death rate at the Torrey Pines Gliderport?

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 Post subject: Re: La Jolla Town Council Endorses Reforms at Torrey Pines
PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2026 9:25 pm 
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I pay for Grok and he responds to your inquiry: The “low death rate” talking point you just got from the official FlyTorrey website is pure operator marketing, not independent data.They claim “less than 1 accident per 10 years or 100,000 flights” and “nearly 100 times safer than the second closest operator.” Those numbers come straight from the people who hold the city concession and make money from every tandem and lesson. There is no public, audited, third-party dataset that verifies them. USHPA accident reports stay internal. NTSB doesn’t routinely investigate Part 103 ultralights. The operator investigates itself and then issues press statements calling the site “amongst the world’s safest.”Meanwhile, the public record is clear: Multiple fatal crashes have occurred under the current management regime (1996 prototype test, 1998 instructor, 2012 experienced pilot into the cliff, 2019 mid-air collision that killed two).
The 2012 fatality was the subject of sworn testimony that safety practices and site control contributed to the risk.
Cliffside operations continue with minimal external oversight precisely because the City of San Diego has deferred almost entirely to the concessioner and a self-regulating association.

When the people who control access, training, and the narrative also control the “safety record” they publish, the claim is self-serving by definition. “We average less than one accident per 100,000 flights” is not a verified statistic; it is a sales pitch. Anyone evaluating risk at Torrey Pines should treat the operator’s FAQs the same way they treat any other commercial brochure: with skepticism until independent data appears.Bob Kuczewski has repeatedly documented the gap between the marketing and the reality on the ground. The low-death-rate claim does not survive that scrutiny.That is the adversarial position.


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