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Re: 'Dog needs good home...

Postby skydog » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:33 pm

Thanks Sam! Is that #16016 a ushga membership #?
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Re: 'Dog needs good home...

Postby SamKellner » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:14 pm

Skydog Doug,

Uh, correct.
There was little need to join while I was initially learning/self teaching here in Tx, hillcountry. '74-'75.

'76, I just happened to be living near San Diego, Ca. and soaring Torrey, on my Seagull 3, without a membership.

After a couple of soaring flights and top landing, and with Mentors like Bill"Pork"Roecker, JC Brown, Chuck Pearson, and Steve Hawkshurst, I was glad to join USHGA.

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Re: 'Dog needs good home...

Postby Bill Cummings » Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:13 am

Hey Hawks, Terry is down from Santa Fe, NM. I'll get back here as soon as I can.
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Re: 'Dog needs good home...

Postby Bill Cummings » Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:04 pm

I received a letter from USHPA a day or two ago.

Oops! I wanted to first focus on my need to get clergy here to chase away the “Hiding Demons.”

My house is possessed with “Hiding Demons.”
I’ll put my bifocal glasses down and put on my computer 1.25 diopter magnifiers because I am just resistant to buying and getting use to trifocal lenses. It was tough enough getting used to bifocal lenses particularly when hang gliding.

So where was I going with this…? Oh yes! No sooner had I put my bifocal glasses down then the hiding demons scurried away with my bifocal glasses to play hide and seek with me. It has gotten to the point that it is no longer funny.

I heard the mail truck accelerating from the mail box out front and I took off the computer glasses and went out for the mail.

You guessed it. The demons also scurried away with the computer glasses while I was gone and this time they really outdid themselves. They must have hid them outside somewhere this time because I’ve been through the house top to bottom with no luck.

So I was out at the mail box without any glasses and I held the letter at arms length and I could just recognize the emblem on the return address as being from the USHPA. The bold letters were the only thing I could focus on.

I went back in the house and opened the letter. The contents looked to be another credit card with a red rubber band around it??
So next I’m carrying this credit card and rubber band all around the house looking for a pair of glasses. I set the credit card and rubber band down so I could look under the bed for the glasses. I found a green plastic
"Brut” deodorant stick under the bed and returned it to the bathroom where I discovered the bifocal lenses just behind the raised toilet lid and on top of the toilet tank. After making a sandwich I remembered that I wanted a look at the new credit card and rubber band.
The demons got there ahead of me. The credit card and rubber band was/were gone.

So now I found an old cheep pair of #1 diopter magnifiers that feel like they are sucking the eyeballs right out of my head. Does anyone know who I can call to report that lost credit card? And what was up with that rubber band????
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Re: 'Dog needs good home...

Postby SamKellner » Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:32 pm

Bill, Good luck with the demons :eh:

Read near the same strange message on another forum, the other day. Plastic card and rubberband :wtf:

I got a 12"x12" yellow "focused zone", "active flying area", caution sign to display in the LZ or TO.

Also a matching yellow "focused pilot" duffle bag. :shifty: :wtf:
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Re: 'Dog needs good home...

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:25 pm

billcummings wrote:It has gotten to the point that it is no longer funny.


I'm sorry, but that was about the funniest thing I've read all day ... well next to Margie's "Hunting" version of the "Night Before Christmas".

I don't know about that letter from USHPA, but your telling of the story was hilarious.    :lol: :lol: :lol: :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Re: 'Dog needs good home...

Postby skydog » Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:40 am

I'm hypnotized and at the same time I'm "Confused" about the USHPA "Focused" card...what's it do? I've already spent way too much time looking at it. If I wear the wristband, are people going to question me about performance enhancing things I may or may not have used? Not that I've had all that much enhanced performance or there's anything wrong with taking that stuff!! If I bring the wrist band along on my next flight, does it count as the "one new thing at a time" per flight? Will I then have to wait until the next flight to try my new Vario?? Hocus pocus... :crazy: FOCUS!!! Fly the glider...worth every penny!! :think:
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Re: 'Dog needs good home...

Postby Bill Cummings » Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:40 pm

I’m going nuts trying to find in my early flight log books a hang gliding trip to Lake Pepin. I can’t find it. The Sky Dog will remember!
Lake Pepin is a wide stretch in the Mississippi River below Red Wing Minnesota.
It lays claim to the birthplace of water skiing.
On the east side of the river is the State of Wisconsin.
My wife Terry, and I along with friend Don Ray, hooked onto our boat and headed for Lake Pepin during a long Holiday weekend to do some boat towing in front of the 300’ to 350’ high cliffs that ran along both sides of the river. There was about a mile distance between the Minnesota and Wisconsin shorelines.
The lake was glassy calm so instead of trying to soar up on the rim somewhere we decided to do some pop starts from the trailer court point near the marina in front of the city of Lake City, MN.
This was early day towing before the center of mass bridles so we were using 2,025 lb breaking strength 3/8” polypro rope. No weak links, and a stainless steel control frame from Bill Moyes. This would be our first encounter with the Sky Line Sky Dogs from Duluth, MN.
Several of the “Dogs” had driven down expecting the forecast to be right for the Lake City, MN foot launch. With our towing operation we really didn’t care much which way the wind would blow since the river made a couple of turns like one line of a swastika or closer to that shape than to a “Z” shape. We had most any direction covered. The “Dogs” found the wind to be over the back at launch so they were headed for a bar in Lake City to have a safety meeting. (Ahem!)
I’m trying to remember which of the Dogs were there. For sure Dan O’Hara, Larry Majchrzak ( I say it like My zhak which is probably wrong). It could have also been that Buck McMinn was there too. Maybe Dan remembers.
So the Dogs, normally not distracted when heading for a safety meeting at a bar, saw some crazy tow pilots exposing the sport to deadly insanity in full public view.
Nobody did this crazy towing since Boris Poppov nixed it after he had a crash trying it. Boris was the head honcho for HG it the state at the time.
The Dogs were probably going to cut our flying wires if necessary to save us from ourselves and not allow any nightly news to put hang gliding in an even worse light than the sport was currently enduring.
I was just ready to shake the glider to signal the pop start when the pack of dogs came howling at me wanting to know what we were doing. “Well----ah ----er --flying. It’s called a hang glider“, I said.

“We know what it is but how long have you been doing this?” Dan demanded.
I was trying to be polite yet not give up too much incriminating evidence since I was sure these guys must be the authority figures that had control of the goings on here. I was obviously committing some grievous offense to everyone and probably God too. The Dogs weren’t a bit shy about running their fingers over the stainless steel flying wires inspecting everything probably for air worthiness. The capital letters “FAA” were creeping into my mind and I was thinking next I would have to produce I.D.
If I told this guy how long I’d been doing this would I be fined by the hour or the day? I was trying to be very careful of what I said that might come back to haunt me.
I said, “Do you mean how long today? Or how long since my first flight?
Before I could answer one of the other Dogs demanded what this control frame was made of. “Stainless steel.” I told them which stunned them all into wide eyed silence. After telling them that we three each had several hundred flights and after it came out that we lived only 50 miles from them they wondered why they hadn’t know about us.
Once the Dogs determined through grilling us that we just might have this towing figured out they wanted to see us fly. Before I did my pop start Dan told me that even though the wind wasn’t on the surface of the lake we should be over soaring the Wisconsin side since the wind would be good enough over there above the tree line on the cliff.
That turned out to be some of the best information that we had all weekend.
I did our first interstate tow flight and when I got over to Maiden Rock on the Wisconsin side the air was so smooth soaring only 50 feet above the tree line it was unbelievable.
It was just as though God had a rope tied to the king post and was swinging me back and forth on the long ridge. Four hundred feet below the boat sat motionless on the glassy surface of the lake. This was my first ridge soaring flight and the reason that we made many more trips to Lake Pepin in the years after that.

Maiden Rock was the turning point at the end of the ridge and each time I turned over Maiden Rock (Every single time) I would look down at the rocks at the base of the cliff and recall the Indian history of an Indian maiden that the rock was named for. Rather than be forced into a marriage to a brave that she didn’t love, A marriage that would keep her from the brave that she loved, she did her funeral dance on the rock as the Indian village below pleaded with her not to jump. She had made up her mind though and at the end of her dance of death she jumped.

Looking at the rocks at the base of the cliff below me summoned a bit of the fear of falling that most all of us deal with. There is risk in hang gliding and every turn over the rock (Every single time.) I would think about her plunge to death. :(
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Re: 'Dog needs good home...

Postby skydog » Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:03 am

Great story Bill. Your FIRST soaring flight!!!!! It was a good thing the Skydogs were there to save you from yourself and save 'our' sport and tell you how to soar!! It couldn't have been long after this happened that you flew "The Rock" in Duluth and became a Skydog yourself. Your story from Pepin is the earliest known(to me) instance of 'Flair' (Skydog Pres. for Life) Dan O'Hara ever trying to save the sport from the possibly clueless. He can direct a line of questioning with best of them. You probably were not his first victim and I KNOW you weren't his last!! You could not have known that Flair had a Masters degree in psychology by that time. What happened that day was an 'intervention' Bill. He's a tough act to follow but I've been following him around like a little brother since we met in the late 70's! Now you know the rest of the story!! Haha...GREAT STORY!! :clap: :clap: :clap: Thanks.
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High on life above Lake City, MN!
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The North facing at ridge Lake City, MN launch ramp on far end.
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Lake City ramp with Maiden Rock straight out in front - over on the Wisconsin side of the Mississippi. Buck on left and Flair on the other left.
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Lake City set up and a pair of Progressive Aircraft ProStar II's. 1983-84?
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Lake City, MN on Lake Pepin (Mississippi River). Maiden Rock is the at top right center of picture.
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Re: 'Dog needs good home...

Postby Bill Cummings » Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:07 pm

On that last picture the point jutting out into the lake is where we were doing the pop starts and landings. Terry was guessing that our first meet up with the Sky Dogs at Lake City was 80- 81?
I see you have dated your photo to be exactly, “83-84?” I wish I had done a better job of labeling my pictures.

Do you have an aerial shot of Larry’s house and ramp on the Wisconsin side?

Great pictures Doug! :thumbup: :clap:
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