I can't post publicly to the Oz Report, but Davis sometimes responds to email. Here's a conversation from earlier today:
Bob Kuczewski wrote:Hi Davis,
I don't see any call to ask which Directors voted to support this in both the O&B Committee and the full USHPA Board.
Even if this "slipped through" accidentally, it seems that Directors who voted for it should wear a little egg on their face for not reading what the heck they're voting on.
Maybe you could start by asking Mark Forbes how he voted and whether he read it or not before voting.
Bob Kuczewski
Davis Straub wrote:It was passed at the full BOD meeting without discussion. Probably few if any one knew. Dave Wills, Mark Forbes, and Ken Grubbs were the only members at the committee meeting. I'm following up on this. Read on the forum. Davis Straub
Bob Kuczewski wrote:Was that the O&B Committee or the Chapter Support (misnomer) Committee?
By the way, I find it painful to read forums where I can't post. Maybe you could ask Bill Helliwell and Brad Hall how they voted. They don't seem to answer my email messages. : )
Bob K.
Davis Straub wrote:O and B. They weren't in the committee meeting and like I said there was no dissent in the general, so you know how they voted. Davis Straub
Bob Kuczewski wrote:It's only conjecture to say how they voted unless there's a published list for each vote. That would create a real voting record, and it might make them actually read what they're voting on before being permanently "branded" for all to see.
When I was a Director I read everything I could. I didn't go out socializing, and instead I spent a lot of my time in my room carefully wading through the volumes of crap put out by Dave Wills and his cronies. Who's doing that job now?
Davis Straub wrote:Oh, oh, off the rails.
Bye.
Davis Straub
Bob Kuczewski wrote:Off the rails"? Nope. Right on Target.
Do you honestly think I would have let this slip through without speaking up?
Davis Straub wrote:Nope.

Davis Straub
Bob Kuczewski wrote:You get 2 points for honesty.
Have a nice day.
Davis Straub wrote:Unfortunately, you get -1 for condescension and another -1 for cluelessness.
Davis Straub
Bob Kuczewski wrote:Davis,
You kissed the big USHPA butt by giving Bill Helliwell a content-free platform and now he's rubber stamping the party line with no one to call him on it. You get what you deserve.
Unfortunately, the rest of us are getting it too.
Condescension? - In spades.
Cluelessness? - Sorry. Wrong guy.
Bob Kuczewski
Yet here's how Davis described it on the Oz Report ... where he knows I can't reply:
Davis Straub on the Oz Report Forum wrote:Bob K. has been on the war path today writing many abusive emails to me today (even though I am on his side, but apparently not enough).
I can certainly understand (and am reminded of it again today) why Dave, Ken, and Mark want to swat that annoying fly.
Unfortunately there is much collateral damage here.
BTW, I didn't notice anything by Bob on the Torrey Hawks forum that would be a problem for the USHPA.
Davis followed up with this:
Davis Straub on the Oz Report Forum wrote:I truly wonder if Bob has ever been checked for OCD and autism.
It's no wonder that USHPA (and so much of the world) is screwed up when determination and drive are mislabelled as OCD and autism.

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